So there's yet a third term: we have a call, we have a raise, and now an 'increase' If the next player increases the bet to $15 (completes the bet), up to three raises are then allowed when using a three-raise limit. For example: In $15-$30 stud, the lowcard opens for $5. From RRoP, Section 8: 7 Card Stud, Para 6: Increasing the amount wagered by the opening forced bet up to a full bet does not count as a raise, but merely as a completion of the bet. But it's still not a call of the $1 bring-in, so saying 'call' to a $1 bring in is not the same as saying 'complete'.
I think the semantics are that if a first round player completes the bring-in (in the above example, from $1 to a total of $3), there are still 3 raises open, yes? So in that sense it doesn't count as a raise towards the maximum number of raises for a betting round. Any further raises during this round would be in normal $3 increments. For example, in the $3-$6 game the first raiser would increase the bet from $1 to $3, a raise of only $2. Here's how one source describes the bring-in and first-round betting options:Īssuming the player who brings the hand in does do so for the minimum, the next player to act (action, as in all forms of poker, moves in a clockwise direction) may choose to fold, call the minimum bet, or 'raise' by 'completing' the bet.
So if it's not a call, and you insist it's not a raise then.